Moderator: When the outside world is worried about the moment when Huawei is so life-and-death, you are a bit detached and want to talk about it.educationEducation is still your biggest concern, why?
Ren Zhengfei: First, we never felt that we would die. We have already made 20,000 gold medals, the above inscription is undead Huawei. We don't think we will die at all. Why do we see death so heavy? Therefore, we think that we can sort out the problems we have, which problems are removed, and which problems are strengthened. Victory must belong to us. There are no ways for some high-end products in the United States, because we are totally dependent on ourselves and not on the United States.
I care that education is not about Huawei and about our country. If we do not pay attention to education, we will actually return to poverty. Because this society will eventually go to artificial intelligence, because you can visit our production line, 20 seconds aMobile phoneFrom scratch, there are basically no one. In the future, we have hundreds of thousands of production lines that are completely automated. Therefore, the cultural quality of our people is not enough. At least you have not been educated in college or university. Your English is not good, your computer is not good, and the opportunities for workers are not there.
From the epitome of our company, we must see the country zooming in to see this country, and the country must move toward this step, otherwise the country will be uncompetitive.
Ren Zhengfei: What is the strong foundation of a country, such as hardware, railways, highways, transportation facilities, urban construction, running water, and hard facilities in various environments. Hard facilities are soulless, souls are in culture, philosophy is in education, and a country has a hard infrastructure. There must be soft soil. Without these soft soils, no crops can grow. Why do people not mention this question, I will raise this question, we really lead the world in science and technology, I can see the working state of our scientists, I just go abroad, go to any research institute, every scientist Strive to talk about his equation. After ten or twenty years, the results of these things, such as his demonstration of the system equations, show that this future millimeter wave may give humans a hundred times the bandwidth, but only double the money, that is, you are more For two cents, you can get a hundred times the bandwidth, so the poor can consume.
These basic sciences have come to this step. Without starting from the basic education in rural areas and not starting from the basic education of layers, our country cannot compete in this part of the world. Therefore, I believe that the country must fully see this, and the future of the country is education.
Moderator: You recognize such a key issue, but your company is bigger, that is, a company. What can you do to change this social problem?
The United States shot the birds, but I did not expect that we could not eliminate it.
Ren Zhengfei: I can see the true research of scientists, the level that can be achieved, and the difficulty of reaching this level. I know that I believe that we must start from the most basic, and we must respect the teacher and teach it. This can be true. Years, thirty or fifty years have hope. In the past two or three decades, mankind must have erupted a huge revolution. The horror of this revolution has been seen by all, especially the United States. Seeing the best, they can beat you this bird. They didn't expect us to be ready to disappear. They didn't expect that they thought that setting up a few guns would scare a country's era or that era, and it may be misjudged, right. Because the arrest of our country alone has destroyed our will, and this has been misjudged. Therefore, I think that our country is actually starting from today. If our rural children are many doctoral masters after 20 or 30 years, they will fight for the country in new areas of innovation and strive for a new future and destiny. It is the future.
Moderator: Ren Zong, like the series of questions you just mentioned, we take talent as an example. Will it affect the development of Huawei in the coming years?
Ren Zhengfei: No.
Moderator: You have a full talent pool.
Ren Zhengfei: Right. We can recruit the best talents in the world, such as the British chip factory. We recruited doctors from Germany. Because German doctors have strong hands-on ability, we can use the world computer competition champion in the University of Novosibirsk five or six times. The wages are recruited, we have raised wages in Russia, and many Russian doctoral scientists are vying to work for us.
Moderator: In this case, why do you want to exercise a heart that may be seen by others.
Ren Zhengfei: Patriotism, love this country, I hope that this country will be prosperous and strong, and no longer bully.
Huawei did not go to the most dangerous moment, now it is at its best.
Moderator: When many people know that I am coming to interview you, they all hope that the question I ask is whether Huawei has reached the most dangerous and dangerous situation.
Ren Zhengfei: No, when we were not suppressed by the United States, when the Mengxi boat incident did not happen, our company was at the most dangerous time, lazy, everyone’s pockets have money, disobeying distribution, not willing to go. Working in a difficult place is a dangerous state. Now our company is full of excitement, and the fighting power is booming. How did we get to the most dangerous time at this time? It should be at its best.
Moderator: In response to social concerns about Huawei, Ren Zhengfei accepted a collective interview with the domestic media on the morning of May 21st. In the information provided to reporters by Huawei, there is such a picture: a warhead that was played like a sieve in World War II. The tired plane still insisted on flying, and finally returned safely. There is a line of big characters under the plane: there are no scars, and the skin is thick and thick, and the hero has been suffering since ancient times.
Ren Zhengfei: I went online in the middle of the night last night. I saw this photo, very much like our company. I flew while repairing the plane and tried to fly back.
Moderator: When it comes to this plane, I have a problem for you. This plane may be able to fly back because its vital part is not hurt. Is it possible that one day when the plane is flying, its What should I do if the engine, the fuel tank, and its vital parts are attacked?
Ren Zhengfei: Now we have two stories, the first Germany and the second Japan. Everyone knows that because Germany did not surrender, it was finally blown up. Japan also suffered a strong bombing and Japan surrendered. As a result, Japan was not completely destroyed, but a large industrial base was destroyed. At that time, there was one of the most famous slogans, "Nothing is gone. As long as my people are still there, I can rebuild the glory." Germany can see clearly that Germany has not revived for many years, and all the houses have been restored. And the repair is the same as in the past. Japan’s economy has also recovered rapidly, thanks to their talents, thanks to their education and thanks to their foundation. This is the main point. It is very important that everything is lost and that it cannot be lost, the quality of people, the skills of people, and the confidence of people.
[Background introduction: This aircraft image released by Huawei is reminiscent of another picture they have sent - the ballet foot advertising map, Ren Zhengfei once said at Davos meeting that we drink less than others.coffeeDo more work, in fact, we do not have any advantage than others because we started too late, the growth period is too short, too little accumulated, we have to eat more than others. So we have a ballet foot and a bad foot. Huawei is so bad and happy, he explains how we go to the world. The advertising picture of this ballet foot is also related to Ren Zhengfei’s daughter, Huawei’s vice chairman and global chief financial officer, Meng Zhouzhou.
On December 1, 2018, local time, the Canadian authorities detained Meng’s boat at the Canadian airport at the request of the US. The United States subsequently clarified that it was seeking extradition of Meng Xiazhou. Ten days later, on December 11, 2018, the Canadian court ruled to approve the application for bail of Meng Wanzhou. Meng Xiazhou’s circle of friends who walked out of the court that night said: I am proud of Huawei, and I am proud of my motherland. The picture is the Huawei advertising picture of the ballet foot, which says "The greatness is suffering."
The outside world is worried that the escalating Sino-US trade friction may affect Meng’s extradition lawsuit in Canada. 】
Not worried about Meng Zhouzhou, she is going to read a "Prisoner in Prison" out
Moderator: This time in this context, you are not worried about her future?
Ren Zhengfei: Don't worry. Because now my daughter is also very optimistic, she is self-study five or six homework, she is going to read a "doctor in prison" out, complete this doctoral degree in prison, she is not idle, busy every day, I Every time she called, her mother answered the phone or her husband answered the phone and said that she was very busy. I said that I was very busy. I came over and took a call. She said that she was very busy and very fulfilling.
Moderator: Where is she now?
Ren Zhengfei: In Vancouver, under house arrest. She is under house arrest and not imprisoned. She is surrounded by police, but life is still free.
Moderator: If she continues this situation for a long time.
Ren Zhengfei: The key US and Canada are the rule of law. You have to prove through evidence that she is guilty. We are completely in the right place, and the world is sensational. The main headline of Canada’s largest newspaper headline reads that the Meng Zhouzhou incident is a typical national violation. Just like the headline of our People’s Daily is written about this incident, do you think that we are not rational, do people have such a thing?
Hai Si was a hero, but he didn’t let them publicize it before.
Moderator: Hai Si has been almost like a hero in the minds of everyone in recent times.
Ren Zhengfei: It was originally a hero. How much do you want their medals to take? How high is this rank and how much income is in all aspects. I asked them, they said they were unknown. I said that the money is less? Quite a lot. Is that OK?
Moderator: Why do you want to use the standard of money to ask?
Ren Zhengfei: Just kidding, they also want to publicize, not allowed, their mobile phone research and development people also ran to the stage to give a speech, we criticized, honestly go back to the research room, do not go to the community to let them sell Let's talk about it, don't talk about your research and development.
Ren Zhengfei: Working hard, not doing well, what is the result of Zhang Yang?
Moderator: What is it for them?
Ren Zhengfei: Product.
Moderator: If they are always squatting, can they prove that they are doing well or not doing well?
Ren Zhengfei: How can they lie? Going back to his wife to praise him, his wife went out to buy a few bags a day, came back and said that you look at this package is not good? Isn't it to praise him? He doesn't earn so much money, what does his wife buy to buy?
Moderator: The outside world does not know.
The photos of He Tingbo on the Internet are all fake.
Ren Zhengfei: Why do you know the outside world? I don't think it needs to be known outside. The person who won the award in the country is not a real inventor. Will it not let the real inventor go to the award, and stupidly put his photo on the Internet? You see that the photos of He Tingbo are fake on the Internet. I have recently seen a small amount of her photos are true, most of the time is not her.
Moderator: Others call it a spare tire. They also call themselves a spare tire. What do you call them?
Ren Zhengfei: There is no department that asks them to have a spare tire. It is as important as our market system and R&D system. They are usually getting wages and getting bonuses. Everyone is wearing the same red flowers. Look, we give medals to employees.
Moderator: It’s beautiful, which is for which employee.
Ren Zhengfei: Who is it to whom?
Moderator: What award is it?
Ren Zhengfei: The star of tomorrow is 20% every year, 20% is about 40,000 people. Our medals are very powerful. The mints all over the world are making medals for our company.
Moderator: You said them this morning, and you have been holding your tail with your head down.
Ren Zhengfei: I can't stop it.
Moderator: In the end, I couldn't help myself. Finally, it was their turn to start up. Is this a good thing?
Ren Zhengfei: It is not a good thing to say that it is a good thing at the moment. If it has already happened, we will decide. Just don't take it back.
[Explanation: Haisi was established in 2004, responsible for the development and delivery of all semiconductor chips and core devices of Huawei. The position within Huawei is particularly important. However, this department is extremely low-key. Even in Huawei's architecture, the first-level department can't find it. To Hai Si's figure. 】
Huawei almost sold $10 billion to Hess
Moderator: Just in 2004 or even earlier, Sino-US relations are all normal, and the international supply chain is all right. Why do you expect that if the world is not normal?
Ren Zhengfei: With this thing, I said that we used to sell this company to a US company for $10 billion, because we all know that we will collide with the United States when we continue to develop, and we must collide. Because the contract was signed when it was sold to others, and all the formalities were completed, then we put on the flowers, we ran on the beach, raced, and played table tennis, but the board of directors of the US company changed this week, new directors The veto vetoed the acquisition. So good, let’s come back and discuss, we still sell and not sell, the younger is a radical, and we are determined not to sell anymore. If we stop selling, we will say that we will encounter the United States on the hills ten years later. It must be a loser. We can't beat their bayonets. When they climbed the southern slope, they were carrying beef, canned food, and coffee on the slope. We climbed the slopes with dry food, and we might climb to the mountains. We are not as good as others. Ok, then we have to be mentally prepared, and then we will prepare for the preparation of the spare tires. Of course, some people today also said that 5G will split into two standards in the future. One Western standard and one Eastern standard, I think it will not, because human beings can easily unify a standard and serve the common global cloud society. These two standards are two clouds, and this thing will be difficult to blend in the future. Right?
I hope that in the future, I will not fight with the Americans and will hug.
Under such a premise, the United States today hit us down from the north slope, and we slid down a little bit of snow and climbed up the slope. But one day, the two armies will climb to the top of the mountain. At this time, we will never fight with the Americans, we will hug, we cheer, for the human digital, information service victory conference, a variety of standard victory teachers, our ideal is to serve humanity, not to make money, but Isn't it better to eliminate others? Is it better to be able to serve humanity together?
Didn't anyone mention it? Since you have a spare tire, why didn't you use it early? We are for the benefit of Western companies. We will not let the interests of the West be squeezed out, and our friends will become more. You see, I suppress the company, don't do 8K.TVMachines, all TVs in Japan and Korea use our chips, using our system.
Huawei has enough money.
Moderator: It may not be possible for many people to understand the sentence you just said. Sometimes, if you don’t earn money, you have to let others earn. What kind of consideration is this?
Ren Zhengfei: We have enough. If you want to talk about the excessive profits of their standing board last year, I have not given you any instructions.
Moderator: Is this too cool?
Ren Zhengfei: No, the strategic investment is not enough, our strategic investment is not enough, and our strategy is invested enough, then we have less difficulties today.
Moderator: You don't mean to show off the rich inside?
Ren Zhengfei: No.
Moderator: Didn't hear it?
Ren Zhengfei: No.
Moderator: So how do you say more money?
Ren Zhengfei: Just like the land of your family, cow dung and pig manure are scattered in the ground. The soil fertility is good. It is the income of your family after a few years of crops. We now say that it is this principle to increase strategic investment.
[Explanation: Now Haisi has five series of chips with independent intellectual property rights, which are used in different fields such as smart devices, data centers, artificial intelligence, etc. Among them, Kirin chips have become an important weapon for Huawei to build competitiveness, some independent analysts. It is believed that Huawei's chip research and development capabilities are already in the forefront of the world. It is precisely because of Heis' spare tires that Ren Zhengfei said that the US ban has little impact on Huawei. 】
Moderator: We will follow the usual development without any such accidents in the middle. What should be the existence of Hess in your vision?
Ren Zhengfei: At present, Haisi has a large number of basic theories. This basic theory is also formed by the Strategic Research Institute, which spreads the pepper on the outside. It has no basic theory and it can reach this level.
Moderator: Is it a normal, good state that they will never be enabled?
Ren Zhengfei: I have been using it all the time. I didn’t say it was not used. I just said that it might be that they are coming forward, mainly based on their supply. If it is officially broken, if the United States continues to resume supply, they will continue to produce small quantities.
Moderator: Do you think there is still this day?
Ren Zhengfei: Maybe, maybe. When the United States walked away and found that it was wrong, it corrected itself.
[Explanation: On the fourth day of Huawei's list of so-called entities, the US Department of Commerce issued a 90-day temporary general license to postpone the existing products and services of Huawei and its affiliates in the United States. The trading ban, while at the same time there have been some US suppliers to fully work before the ban to work overtime to supply Huawei. 】
Huawei is ready for "90 days" and it doesn't make much sense to us.
Moderator: In other words, Huawei has a 90-day temporary license. What do you think of this 90 days, what can you do in 90 days? In addition, if this news is true, this 90 days has been canceled, what do you think about this repetition?
Ren Zhengfei: These 90 days have not meant much to us. Because we are ready, we don't need 90 days, right. But let me talk about it. I am very grateful to the American company. Over the past 30 years, American companies have grown along with our company. They have made a lot of selfless contributions and taught how to walk, especially in today’s crisis era. It reflects the conscience of American companies. It should be the night before in the middle of the night, Xu Zhijun was in the middle of the night. I couldn’t remember to call me about two or three o'clock. I reported the efforts of American companies. I was in tears. I felt so much help and helpless.
Moderator: You said in the first sentence that you would like to thank the United States.
Ren Zhengfei: Right.
Moderator: Because they teach us how to walk, how can we grow, let you today, let Huawei feel that the complexity of this world is unfair and it is precisely this country.
It’s normal for students to be more than teachers. The teacher is not happy to play a good one.
Ren Zhengfei: It’s not normal for students to be more than teachers. Students are more than teachers, teachers are not happy, and it is understandable to play a good one. The world's fluid mechanics and aerodynamics were invented by a father and son called Bernoulli, the father of Bernoulli who surpassed his son in aerodynamics, cruelly persecuted his son, and his son was his student. The United States is our teacher. It is okay to see students surpassing it. It doesn't matter. Add a name when writing a thesis, put it in front of it, I will not finish it after I put it in the back?
Moderator: How are you going to face this Sino-US trade conflict that may exist in the future?
Ren Zhengfei: This is probably a long-term, we are ready to fight a long-term battle. We are not prepared to fight short-term assaults. We will also fight assaults. We may also be strong in the future. We have passed this stage of integration and the product switching phase. In fact, we It may be more powerful.
[Explanation: On the big screen of the reception hall of Huawei's head office, the public service advertisements of "Basic Research and Basic Education" produced by Huawei will be broadcasted cyclically. From October 28, 2018, this public service advertisement will start to be put on the media. Ren Zhengfei wants to pass As many channels as possible to appeal to all sectors of society to pay attention to basic education, and call on the state to strengthen research and innovation in basic science. 】
Huawei never has to be perfect, there is no hope for total pursuit of perfection.
Moderator: What you are against is the kind of so-called intellectual property innovation in the process of blindly filling the short board.
Ren Zhengfei: Resolutely opposed, I am the most typical, that is, the short board can't. I often have a wife and a daughter at home. This is so stupid that I am too stupid to die. My life is short, go to you, I don't care, I only do this board, let me fight another board of other people, isn't it a high bucket? Why should you become a complete and perfect person? The perfect person is a useless person. Our company never has to be perfect. When we look at this person who always pursues perfection, I know that he has no hope. This person has shortcomings and many shortcomings. This person can observe it carefully and can reuse it. He said, he said that he would not manage people, just send a Zhao Gang to be a political commissar.
Let me give you an example. There is a scientist, a small movable type, and a big mathematician in Russia. I told them this morning that you have a suitable girlfriend to introduce to him. This young man does not talk about love, he just does mathematics, he goes. Our company has been playing computer for more than ten years, and I don't know what to do. Then we took 50,000 R&D personnel to Moscow to see him, say hello, and the sentence is over. I sent him this academician. He was an academician. When I sent him the card, he spoke to him. Well, um, um, three are finished, no more.
Moderator: He can't understand Chinese?
Ren Zhengfei: There are translations, and there is no need to understand Chinese. That is to say, he is not good at dealing with him. He has been obscured for more than ten years. We don't know. Suddenly told me that we broke through 2G to 3G. This algorithm broke through. In one lesson, we immediately conducted experiments in Shanghai. The experiment proved that we just led the world.
Moderator: So this is the long board of your Huawei company.
Ren Zhengfei: Yes, the basic theory is too cold, and most people are not willing to sit, it is not vigorous.
[Explanation: In Ren Zhengfei's discourse system, basic education has always been compared with basic research. He believes that China's current basic research is not enough, and it is not directly related to basic education. To this end, he has asked experts from authoritative organizations to conduct research on the status of basic education in China at his own expense. 】
Moderator: Why are you doing this kind of investigation?
Ren Zhengfei: I hope that our country will flourish and prosper, and hope that the country can realize the dream of its own country.
Moderator: At today's press conference, you specifically propose education, especially basic education is a matter to be considered at the national level.
Ren Zhengfei: It is the responsibility of the party and the state.
Moderator: But as an entrepreneur, why do you want to do this research?
Ren Zhengfei: It has an authority. To do such a report, the Central Committee believes, and they have investigated the education of the whole world. They have a very deep understanding and understanding.
Moderator: Why do you fund them with your own money to do this? And did not use the company's money?
Ren Zhengfei: I tell you that the money I use for the company is collective money. This is a process and a vote. I can't control my own money. For example, I recently went to Pu'er City. It made the local culture very special. I saw a performance in a village that day. I was very emotional. I said, what do I have to send? I will send you five pianos and I will send five pianos. I donated about a thousand pianos to my donation in Guizhou Province, and I donated it myself. I hope that from the beginning of the youth, we should not simply be mathematical and physicochemical. We should have a comprehensive development of homesickness and lay a broad cultural foundation. Right.
[Explanation: Ren Zhengfei has a special emotion for education. This is related to his parents who have been teachers for a lifetime in remote areas. Because of the experience in that special era, parents have served as brothers and sisters in this life and are not allowed to be teachers. 】
Poor and inferior to teachers, and then poor to invest in the future
Moderator: Your parents have told you not to be a teacher for a lifetime.
Ren Zhengfei: Yes.
Moderator: But you look back at your life and have been paying attention to education almost all the time. Why?
Ren Zhengfei: Because my parents are rural teachers, my parents told us that this life is not allowed to be a teacher. We have no choice but to make choices about our life. But we are not allowed to be teachers in this life. We are very impressed, and we did not do it later. Teacher's. But the teacher is the engineer of the human soul. What if there is no teacher? The problem is to change the policy for teachers. So I said that we can't be poor and poor teachers, that is to say, we must invest in the future, just like our strategic investment. The amount of money we give to the professors every year is huge. Say I have strength because I have an investment in the future. If our country is also like education, education is also the future of the country. If our education is like Japan, like Northern Europe, like Germany, like this, then what is our country worried about the competition with the United States? This year, I can't do it. I will come out with a few excellent people next year, and I will lead and rush to Shangganling. If our teachers are not treated well, children and excellent people are not willing to be teachers. It will only be a Matthew effect, getting worse and worse. Good people are willing to be teachers, they will only get better and better, and the Matthew effect is this effect, right.
Moderator: So in your opinion, it is a truth to be poor and unable to be poor.
Ren Zhengfei: Similarly, we can say that a primary school teacher in Japan is a movie star to be a wife, but I used to have a name. Now I don’t talk about this name. It’s normal, I don’t feel glorious. Of course, our country has made tremendous progress in the past 70 years, and there have been tremendous improvements in these 30 years, right? There has also been great progress in the life of teachers. But we want to see that they are the future of our motherland, they are the future of the country, they are responsible for the flowers, the people who water the flowers. If we don’t give flowers to people who have a sense of professionalism and a sense of mission, he will pour twice less water and the flowers will wither. Are we not a Jobs missing?
The fundamental problem of Sino-US trade is the level of science and technology education.
[Explanation: In the current Sino-US trade war escalation, Huawei is suffering from obvious unfair pressure, Ren Zhengfei is more and more anxious about national basic research and basic education. 】
Moderator: We have put this background on education a little wider. If education is such a status quo, how can we face the Sino-US trade dispute that is likely to continue now and in the future?
Ren Zhengfei: I think that the fundamental problem of Sino-US trade is the level of science and technology education. The country must be open to have a future. However, opening up must be to keep fit, and the ultimate in physical fitness is to have a cultural quality.
Huawei's future does not need me to think, I am already awkward at Huawei.
Moderator: So I can understand why you are re-perfused with Sino-US trade disputes. In the context of this, Huawei's future, you don't care about this. What you care about is our education.
Ren Zhengfei: Yes, Huawei's future does not need to think about it. The people below us should think clearly. They just want to get my support. I don't need to worry about Huawei's too many things. I am already awkward at Huawei. This is why people come to ask you if you count, don't ask me, I don't know.
Moderator: But since you are positioning yourself in Huawei, why don't you retire to a mathematics degree as you wish?
Ren Zhengfei: I think this is very difficult to answer you now.
Moderator: You can raise flowers and raise animals when you are free. Why do you need to raise mathematics?
Ren Zhengfei: Do you think that I will be a flower grower in the future? First, ask my wife, she believes that I don't believe that I raise flowers. She doesn't believe that I will raise flowers. I said that I don't believe me when I retire. Don't say that. I don't believe you will retire. You don't want to go. You will not leave the stage.
Moderator: In other words, if you want to learn mathematics, this quilt may not be realized.
Ren Zhengfei: It is possible.
I am not a hero at all, I never want to be a hero.
Moderator: When the United States is in a downturn, I feel that you are a national hero. Would you like to accept such a title?
Ren Zhengfei: Do not accept, bear. I am not a hero at all, I never want to be a hero. At any time we are doing a commercial thing, the sale of goods does not represent political attitudes, this era has changed, how to buy an Apple mobile phone is not patriotic? How can I see this? That is still open to people. Commodities are commodities, and goods are made up of personal preferences. There is no relationship at all. Media hype is sometimes extreme, and radical ideas are prone to populism, which is not good for a country.
Moderator: Then, what kind of mentality do you think people want to face a company like Huawei?
Ren Zhengfei: I don't need it. I hope they don't have a mentality. They are quiet and honest. They should do what they do. It is a contribution to the country for the country to produce a potato. To say a word, waste other people's ears, right?